Finn
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Post by Finn on May 17, 2007 21:39:20 GMT -5
You did state that and I apologize if I implied otherwise. I was merely trying to open up that particular line of thought, along with the verifiable sources discussion. And, yes, it should be clearly stated as such. I agree wholeheartedly with you on that. No need to apologize. It is an interesting line of discussion, but probably deserves its own thread, or several threads. I wouldn't combine that discussion along with the one involving historic or scientific claims because it would muddy the waters. This particular thread is about Wicca and Druidry. As it is, I think we are pretty far afield from those topics. I define Druidry as either historic Druids, who were of Celtic origin, not prior, or Neo-Druidry which are organized Orders. Wicca of course is a chimera now and defies all definition.
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Post by KittyLane on May 17, 2007 21:54:47 GMT -5
You did state that and I apologize if I implied otherwise. I was merely trying to open up that particular line of thought, along with the verifiable sources discussion. And, yes, it should be clearly stated as such. I agree wholeheartedly with you on that. I define Druidry as either historic Druids, who were of Celtic origin, not prior, or Neo-Druidry which are organized Orders. Wicca of course is a chimera now and defies all definition. Not to be a prat or anything...but if wicca is a chimera how could it defy definition? If the definition of a chimera is: 1. (often initial capital letter) a mythological, fire-breathing monster, commonly represented with a lion's head, a goat's body, and a serpent's tail.2. any similarly grotesque monster having disparate parts, esp. as depicted in decorative art.3. a horrible or unreal creature of the imagination; a vain or idle fancy: He is far different from the chimera your fears have made of him.4. Genetics. an organism composed of two or more genetically distinct tissues, as an organism that is partly male and partly female, or an artificially produced individual having tissues of several species.dictionary.reference.com/browse/chimeraSo wouldn't that make it a whole being? Or was you just trying to say that the wicca are like Frankenstein? LOL I'm only teasing btw. I am not even wiccan, but I do not want people who are feeling they are being name called.
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Finn
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Post by Finn on May 17, 2007 21:58:28 GMT -5
So wouldn't that make it a whole being? Or was you just trying to say that the wicca are like Frankenstein? LOL I'm only teasing btw. I am not even wiccan, but I do not want people who are feeling they are being name called. Yes. Frankenstein works.
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Post by wrengetsin4 on May 17, 2007 22:14:54 GMT -5
No need to apologize. It is an interesting line of discussion, but probably deserves its own thread, or several threads. I wouldn't combine that discussion along with the one involving historic or scientific claims because it would muddy the waters. This particular thread is about Wicca and Druidry. As it is, I think we are pretty far afield from those topics. I define Druidry as either historic Druids, who were of Celtic origin, not prior, or Neo-Druidry which are organized Orders. Wicca of course is a chimera now and defies all definition. I'll take your definition of druids and see your definition of wicca. Then, I'll raise you one druidcraft. For myself, I respect those who attempt to combine the two in an eclectic path as long as they acknowledge it as such and as neither of the above. As I said a duck is a duck. Its not a duck-billed platypus.
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Post by KittyLane on May 17, 2007 22:16:21 GMT -5
So wouldn't that make it a whole being? Or was you just trying to say that the wicca are like Frankenstein? LOL I'm only teasing btw. I am not even wiccan, but I do not want people who are feeling they are being name called. Yes. Frankenstein works. Keep in mind there are wiccans on this board, please. Opinions will be respected here, and welcomed- but not at the expense of others. We are all Frankensteins of some sort. IMO!!!
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Finn
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Post by Finn on May 17, 2007 22:48:47 GMT -5
Keep in mind there are wiccans on this board, please. Opinions will be respected here, and welcomed- but not at the expense of others. We are all Frankensteins of some sort. IMO!!! I stopped at chimera; it was someone else who decided to delve into ideas behind it. I have no problem with Wicca; it is just the Wiccans I can't stand. That is, of course, a joke. Wicca is largely meaningless today, because outside Traditional Wicca it appears to mean anything anyone wants it to mean. Belief in everything is tantamount to belief in nothing. There are many Wiccan groups (and individuals) that have my utmost respect. The current state of Wicca does not. Of course, I'm not too fond of what is happening to Druidry either. I'm one of those elitist swine who thinks Wicca, Paganism, and/or Heathenry is rapidly being destroyed from within, marginalized by mediocrity, and dumbed down in the extreme to serve profit margins. I've been reading the posts here and most of the Wiccans I see speaking are of the sort I have respect for, so I know they will be able to tell my commentary from personal attacks. I take a very traditional (imagine that) view of Druidry. It requires a mastery of specific skills, abilities, and lore. You don't get to declare yourself a Druid. There is no "self initiation" for it. You must apply, be accepted, study, earn your stripes, and should you prove worthy, be oathed into an Order. It is hard work, there are no guarantees, you don't get to advertise it, nor is the knowledge you garner for general consumption. It is for those who earn it.
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Post by blackwolf on May 17, 2007 23:08:56 GMT -5
wrengetsin, and Kitty...In the Tradition, I speak of, as I have said, things were different...The Weyyrding Wey Wietch, and Druid, were known, as the Wieckaan. There were three divisions, within one Crreayafth...
The Druidcrreayafth-Cojoined Wisdom Payth
The Wieckacrreayafth-Those, who knew, spoke, and used, the Obri-Runic Tongue
The Wietchcrreayafth-Who were the Sdar-rrea-G'yar, and taught the Artz of Theaantherrea, and Speell Tradition
( Told you, it was different ) Blessings... ( It is a Divine Pairaducks )
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