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Post by Senbecc on Jul 11, 2006 7:17:55 GMT -5
O.K. I'm working on a little project. I've begun compiling different Irish texts by printing them off and putting them in a book to help in the memorization process. So heres my dilemma. I've been searching the web for Irish texts on tape or CD. I've constructed a place in my house where I can completely shut off all senses except for the sounds of the texts being recited in oral form. I didn't realize it would be so hard to locate something so simple. I suppose I could read them for myself and record it, but theres just something weird about the sound of my own voice.
Also, I've been thinking of looking into some of Marcus's pagan metal bands, as well as some traditional Irish music in it's original Gaelic.
Any help in such matters would of course be greatly appreciated.
Senbecc
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Post by wren on Jul 11, 2006 13:21:31 GMT -5
Wow, I can't do that... listen to stuff on tape to memorize it. I have to read it over to myself and then outloud to get it to stay. I can ask over at the College if they know of anything on CD or tape for you...
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Post by Senbecc on Jul 11, 2006 14:05:49 GMT -5
Wow, I can't do that... listen to stuff on tape to memorize it. I have to read it over to myself and then outloud to get it to stay. I can ask over at the College if they know of anything on CD or tape for you... It would certainly be appriciated. It's called a "cave of learning". In the old days Bards in training would cut off sight, smell, touch, and any sense but the sounds of stories and poetry being recited which helped them memorize. Reading out loud would certainly be another way. You know when you watch a movie to many times, or hear a song enough how it imprints exactly how you saw it? It's because your using a different part of the brain.
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Post by wren on Jul 13, 2006 15:47:40 GMT -5
I have to work so much harder to retain information now, because of my MS. When I was younger, I never cracked a book in school. Never! Not a boast, just like having gray eyes, I think. I simply remembered every single thing. Perfect SAT scores. Every key stroke of every data entry task of every job I ever had, etc. Words to songs, quotes from books, everything stayed in. They used to say I have an 'Eidectic memory' but that seems to be more photographic memory. I didn't see it in my mind. I simply recalled it. I used to call it 'memory jars'. Kept them on a 'shelf' to pull them out at will.
Now, my cognitive memory is adversely affected by my MS and it is driving me a bit mad. Losing my ability to walk did not bother me as much as this does. So, I read something to myself now, then read it aloud, then read it silently again. The more times I do it, the more I can retain it. Makes studying slow going but its worth the effort. Hoping to fire up some unused gray cells and make them overcompensate for the lagging ones! And, I get easily distracted with the kids home for summer, the dogs and all. I'll have to make myself a cave of learning... maybe the bathtub... *grin* I remember everything my 10-yr-old tells me because she tells me things over and over and over and over...
As for the music, I love irish and scottish traditional music. I'll have to check my CDs for which ones have Gaelic lyrics. I do know The Poozies sing a lot of traditional music and much of it is in Gaelic. There is also a radio program on NPR called 'The Thistle and Shamrock', with irish and scottish artists. They might have playlists or information on their website you could look into as well.
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Post by ihrian on Jul 13, 2006 18:08:15 GMT -5
i cant remember stuff if i read it..its rather annoying, because i read and entire book and know if it was fantastic or not, but if someone asks what it was about, i cant tell them,coz i dont really remember!! i end up having to read it all again. i remember odd little things, but listening is much easier.
as for music, i love listening to it in gaelic, its so beautiful. i dont have much in gaelic tho.. =(
i didnt know that u'd be able to get irish texts on tape!
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Post by wren on Jul 14, 2006 17:50:35 GMT -5
So far I am striking out, Senbecc. I wonder if Mary Jones or someone at Sacred-texts.com would be able to assist you?
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Post by Senbecc on Jul 16, 2006 21:52:44 GMT -5
So far I am striking out, Senbecc. I wonder if Mary Jones or someone at Sacred-texts.com would be able to assist you? I know they must exist, I've seen some Welsh texts on tape and CD and hope to find the same on Irish lit. I'll try them.
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Post by Marcus on Jul 17, 2006 16:57:20 GMT -5
Also, I've been thinking of looking into some of Marcus's pagan metal bands, as well as some traditional Irish music in it's original Gaelic. Those Pagan Metal bands will be an aquired taste Senbecc! Lots of growling.......but its the emotion, ambience, real faith that makes me love this music. I spent all my money collecting cds of pagans from all over the world. From Russia, Ukraine, Scandanavia, Brazil, Spain, Germany, Franch, Ireland! So many cultures, languages and pagan beliefs infused into a cd. So much to learn and so many voices to be heard. However most of those bands take bits and pieces from ancient texts or poetry and then addd their own translation or summary of the text. But with aot of bands i learn alot about some stories or mythologies even if its not in great detail. If i want to learn more it is usually easy to find the origional texts.
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Post by wren on Jul 19, 2006 13:38:28 GMT -5
So far I am striking out, Senbecc. I wonder if Mary Jones or someone at Sacred-texts.com would be able to assist you? I know they must exist, I've seen some Welsh texts on tape and CD and hope to find the same on Irish lit. I'll try them. Just received the following reply to my post at druidcircle... " There is a tape set of Mabinogion, recorded by Professor Ron Hutton, available through the Order of Bards, Ovates and Druids website. Can't remember the URL though, sorry." We'll find them for you, yet! Hey, maybe you should record them and sell them here to help pay for the site! That, along with the used book exchange... hmmm.... sorry, my old marketing background is rearing its ugly head...
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Post by Senbecc on Jul 22, 2006 9:35:13 GMT -5
I know they must exist, I've seen some Welsh texts on tape and CD and hope to find the same on Irish lit. I'll try them. Just received the following reply to my post at druidcircle... " There is a tape set of Mabinogion, recorded by Professor Ron Hutton, available through the Order of Bards, Ovates and Druids website. Can't remember the URL though, sorry." We'll find them for you, yet! Hey, maybe you should record them and sell them here to help pay for the site! That, along with the used book exchange... hmmm.... sorry, my old marketing background is rearing its ugly head... Well aren't you a doll. I've actually seen the one on the Mabinogion, which is how I got the idea of finding some on Irish texts. Try not to tire yourself out to much, I can always record them for myself.
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Post by Senbecc on Jul 22, 2006 9:37:27 GMT -5
Also, I've been thinking of looking into some of Marcus's pagan metal bands, as well as some traditional Irish music in it's original Gaelic. Those Pagan Metal bands will be an aquired taste Senbecc! Lots of growling.......but its the emotion, ambience, real faith that makes me love this music. I spent all my money collecting cds of pagans from all over the world. From Russia, Ukraine, Scandanavia, Brazil, Spain, Germany, Franch, Ireland! So many cultures, languages and pagan beliefs infused into a cd. So much to learn and so many voices to be heard. However most of those bands take bits and pieces from ancient texts or poetry and then addd their own translation or summary of the text. But with aot of bands i learn alot about some stories or mythologies even if its not in great detail. If i want to learn more it is usually easy to find the origional texts. Thats what I like about you Cu Chulainn, your not afraid to look to the original sources...Did you know there are adults twice your age who won't do that? Keep it up!
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Post by Marcus on Jul 23, 2006 7:13:07 GMT -5
I allways go to the origional texts. Sometimes things become distorted when written in someone elses hand.
The origional texts (or earlier texts) are more likely to be closer to the truth or the origional meaning.
There is more...to the older texts.
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Post by wren on Jul 23, 2006 14:53:40 GMT -5
Marcus, do like the band Runrig?
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Post by Senbecc on Jul 24, 2006 9:16:08 GMT -5
Marcus, do like the band Runrig? Are they good?
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Post by wren on Jul 24, 2006 9:34:37 GMT -5
Well, I THNK SO! Although, when their leads went off into politics, they changed a bit.
This came up in discussion here because I used an Barclay James Harvest song (stay with me here) for the opening of my paper on Celtic History in Scotland (song - 'Forever Yesterday'). The lyrics mention the term 'runrig' which my husband always wondered about. I explained it to him and then we got onto the band Runrig, etc.
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