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Mar 14, 2008 21:02:25 GMT -5
Post by Whatever on Mar 14, 2008 21:02:25 GMT -5
So in your opinion it isn't a 'spell' unless it uses words? We were discussing spells with words. Hmm...that was a bit short. Sorry my attention was being pulled in several directions at once. Lemme try this again. Maybe instead of originally saying "writing your own spell" I should have said something more general like "creating". I don't believe a spell needs to involve words.
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Mar 15, 2008 0:02:06 GMT -5
Post by diarmuid on Mar 15, 2008 0:02:06 GMT -5
when one posts a spell on a board, sometimes there are those who see it and instantly start to use it expecting it to work instantaneously, fantastical magic. And then when it doesn't work to that persons standards, they come running back complaining, those complaints affect the person who wrote it and it takes a little of the power out of it for them. It is like when you do a spell in front of someone. It is likely to be less effective, because of the the prescence of a skeptic or the interference of that audience. I tend to agree with this idea. Hmmm.... now, I disagree with this line of thinking. If you've written or used a spell for yourself, you know how it works for you. You have experience with it. Why let what others think of it sway your opinion, or, influence you in your work? That's a group think attitude... NO ONE has the power to take away from anothers magic, or spell work.... You have to give someone the power to influence your thoughts and magic. (My opinion on the matter) I agree with you. But who is to say that everyone is going to know how to avoid that person's influence? Nevermind....if they know what they are doing, they aren't stupid so....nevermind...
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Mar 15, 2008 12:52:30 GMT -5
Post by Lady Anastasia on Mar 15, 2008 12:52:30 GMT -5
I agree with you. But who is to say that everyone is going to know how to avoid that person's influence? Nevermind....if they know what they are doing, they aren't stupid so....nevermind... No, not nevermind. I think I know where you're going with this. There is a danger associated with "Spell Whoring" and "Spell Begging" It usually turns up with groups of new practitioners, and teens. Most of the time its "Neo Pagan Fluff" A lack of effort and or wanting to do the work themselves. So, spell begging comes in. Often times these people have no real understanding of magic and spell work. Also, because they are being lazy, and, not putting any effort into the spells, they fail, come back, complain, and, other fluff are influenced by this. I really dislike boards that have lots of "Spell Begging" and "Spell Whoring" In the same instance, this has always been a place for the sharing of ideas, and, usually, (hopefully) on for education. With that in mind, I feel it's a good thing to share some of the more simple spells, (Like the one that I posted in response to the question asked) It gives the newer practitioners an example, or foundation on which to build.
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Mar 16, 2008 15:19:20 GMT -5
Post by Senbecc on Mar 16, 2008 15:19:20 GMT -5
So in your opinion it isn't a 'spell' unless it uses words? We were discussing spells with words. Ah - I wasn't aware anyone had actually specified.
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Mar 16, 2008 15:30:38 GMT -5
Post by Senbecc on Mar 16, 2008 15:30:38 GMT -5
Also... which would you prefer? an open sharing of information? OR a site that will not allow the sharing of spells, and information? I prefer open sharing. But the reason that other forums I am on do not allow it is mostly because of things like...hmmm...how do I explain this...when one posts a spell on a board, sometimes there are those who see it and instantly start to use it expecting it to work instantaneously, fantastical magic. And then when it doesn't work to that persons standards, they come running back complaining, those complaints affect the person who wrote it and it takes a little of the power out of it for them. It is like when you do a spell in front of someone. It is likely to be less effective, because of the the prescence of a skeptic or the interference of that audience. I tend to agree with this idea. I can see their point I suppose, but spell crafting can often be a very large chunk of what should be discussed on a Pagan forum. The problem I have is that these same people will go out and buy a book which offers little or no guidance to the practitioner, at which point the get the same ideas and conclusions anyway. Seems like the advice drawn from experience, which can be offered by the posters on a board as opposed to just the book. In short, if a person finds a spell and expects Charmed or Sabrina type results, then they obviously need to find out in their own way that this isn't how it works.
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