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Post by Der Trommler on Jul 15, 2007 10:33:04 GMT -5
Ok, so this is wishful thinking. I remembered a thread a while back that relates to this. I like the idea. It offers a whole bunch of possibilities. For instace, you can have a fishing show (if ya looking for a host..hint hint...lol) But it can range from cooking to gardening to travel. So much to work with. Think about learning culture & different philosophies. I think it is a great idea. In that thread, someone wrote that it was in the works. Well, I'm going to keep it fresh in your minds! Anyone else have thoughts on this?
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Post by Zowwiee ™ on Jul 15, 2007 13:50:44 GMT -5
I think it is a amazing idea. they have Christian channels so why not let us lot have fun...but It would probably raise alot of contreversy. Its a good idea though, help us stay connected to the Pagan community at all times even if we feel isolated :]
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Post by Finn on Jul 15, 2007 15:43:47 GMT -5
I think it is a amazing idea. they have Christian channels so why not let us lot have fun...but It would probably raise alot of contreversy. Its a good idea though, help us stay connected to the Pagan community at all times even if we feel isolated :] Hrm. I'm dubious about that. I'm not sure how television is going to keep anyone connected. In fact, the more technology is involved, the less we seem in touch. There was a time when you had to be in the company of others to discuss matters, work magic, or even debate and argue. Now it is has been reduced to an electronic filter. It is instant access and yet empty calories. A television channel seems to be the inevitable conclusion, like a sinkhole wherein the last of our dignity and pretentions of being anything other than entertainment will end up.
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Post by Zowwiee ™ on Jul 16, 2007 10:52:25 GMT -5
yes that is very true, I agree but for those of us who have no Pagan friends,connections etc, I might be useful :]
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Post by Dystopia on Jul 16, 2007 17:44:34 GMT -5
I think it is a amazing idea. they have Christian channels so why not let us lot have fun...but It would probably raise alot of contreversy. Its a good idea though, help us stay connected to the Pagan community at all times even if we feel isolated :] Hrm. I'm dubious about that. I'm not sure how television is going to keep anyone connected. In fact, the more technology is involved, the less we seem in touch. There was a time when you had to be in the company of others to discuss matters, work magic, or even debate and argue. Now it is has been reduced to an electronic filter. It is instant access and yet empty calories. A television channel seems to be the inevitable conclusion, like a sinkhole wherein the last of our dignity and pretentions of being anything other than entertainment will end up. Well, if they put on pagan serials or Pagan Idol on the Channel it could go in that direction. But, I don`t think that was what Der Trommel had in mind. I think what we`re talking about is a pure educational channel, like National Geographic or Animal Planet or History Channel. If well organized not-only it could be edifying, but maybe it could also broaden the mind of people who are misinterpreting or misunderstanding the whole pagan path (or paths). I said maybe. Thus, it would be more that helpful for those (like me) who live in f/!%#/&%*//! and who have no pagan friends, connections...as Zowwiee said,- countries whose pagan populations are very low, or zero, generally. I, myself, have to save up quite some money to buy a book on paganism (whatever path it may be), cause such books are very expensive around here, not to mention that, when I finally gain some money, I have to travel to another state to find anything related to the subject. I just got back from a trip, looked in all shops and libraries that should sell such stuff and returned empty-handed. All the books I have were sent to me by my brother in America. That is how I got the insight in my path in the first place. And that is why I think a Pagan Channel would be a good idea. Of course whether television will do us harm or not, it depends on whether we are going to let ourselves get addicted to it or not.
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Post by Finn on Jul 17, 2007 7:20:59 GMT -5
Well, if they put on pagan serials or Pagan Idol on the Channel it could go in that direction. But, I don`t think that was what Der Trommel had in mind. I think what we`re talking about is a pure educational channel, like National Geographic or Animal Planet or History Channel. If well organized not-only it could be edifying, but maybe it could also broaden the mind of people who are misinterpreting or misunderstanding the whole pagan path (or paths). I said maybe. I agree with you. If it were a serious approach to history, faith, and various stripes of Paganism it would be of value to the so-called Pagan Community. I'm not as optimistic as you. Television channels are profit enterprises. The few exceptions get government money. Wicca, Paganism, and the various forms of Heathenry aren't going to gety that anytime soon. That means any channel that pops up will pander to the broadest audience. That isn't Wiccans, Pagans, and/or Heathens. Its purpose will be to entertain and shock. It will show the worst of us (and there are a lot of those) and the most humerous, nothing else. Silverwolf, Horne, and who knows what else would have campy talk shows. I think I just threw up in my mouth.
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Post by Dystopia on Jul 17, 2007 17:04:28 GMT -5
So true, unfortunately. The bare proof for that lies in the fact that there are few good scientific channels. It could only work if it had a pure scientific approach and if it were created for educational purpose. In fact, a lot of "if"s should be satisfied in order to make this potential channel a good one, and I`m aware that it is not very likely to happen. So, I wasn`t optimistic when I predicted that a pagan channel would be instantly well-created, I was just daydreaming.
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Post by Der Trommler on Jul 17, 2007 18:36:33 GMT -5
The profits on these channels are not from the actual airing but rather from the commercials 'paying' for the time. The channel I have in mind is like dystopia had written. Very educational. The idea here is to help benefit those who want to learn more. Yes, there may be those who would oppose but I think shows about cooking, gardening, traveling, living, (you get the point) is something that would help those indeed 'connect' Connection is not always by touching. Learning is that very connection we have with life. I, myself, have learned quite a bit from shows like National Geographic. Again, this could put on TV shows like Bewitched or Charmed but that's for pure entertainment value. So, like I said, we could have a channel that allows non-Pagans to learn non-Pagan things but get an understanding that it's not that different from the way they live.
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Post by Dystopia on Jul 18, 2007 4:25:59 GMT -5
I know. But young TV channels (recently created) usually need a lot of money support, at least till they can stand on their own two feet; which would in turn mean that we would have 15-20 min set of commercials within (and between) every program. And this, believe me, can get so iritating,..it kills every desire to watch the program to its end. Besides, not many sponsors would be interested in this kind of project, so the ones who would accept this job would probably be the ones who are desperately trying to sell their products, whatsoever. Still, I would be happy to see a pagan channel on TV, but Only if it would be pure educational and of good quality.
And when I said `of good quality`, I didn`t mean this. I could bare with commercials, but not with this. Sorry, but I don`t think that such TV shows would do any good to the kind of pagan channel I proposed. It would only present a wrong picture of us, or if not that, at least confuse people (who are not familiar with paganism) by saying one thing in documentaries about culture/philosophies/faith, and presenting yet another in serials like those. I just don`t see a connection between serious documentary programs and entertainment shows like Charmed. A well created channel doesn`t need entertainment sections, because its high quality makes it both - its edifying and entertaining in the same time.
Don`t get me wrong. If anyone would like to see a pagan channel on TV it is me, considering I live in a shithole. But I`m just skeptic about its quality.
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Post by Der Trommler on Jul 18, 2007 8:18:12 GMT -5
Actually, shows like Charmed will be the beacon for those who are not aware of the channel. Most of the time, you need such shows to draw people in. It's not a bad show but if it needed to be put on the channel to draw the crowd, I'm for it. As far as commercials are concerned, you have to understand money is money. So, most companies won't balk at putting a commercial on a Pagan channel. Think about the repercussions if they decided not to. Questions would be raised as to why they didn't want to. A new channel? Nay, they still put up money for new channels. They wouldn't be able a real answer & therefore be more than likely to do such. This channel has a lot to offer without even getting into the deeper things. I think that it would also allow Pagans to be employed & offer opinions (much like our beloved website here). It's just a dream that I hope we can get to happen sooner rather than later
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Post by KittyLane on Jul 18, 2007 16:29:33 GMT -5
Its is a interesting concept, but I am unsure of how the general public will take that. I foresee a Christian uprising....
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Post by Der Trommler on Jul 18, 2007 22:41:26 GMT -5
There has been talk of cable companies charging by the channel (you can pick & choose your programming)....Whether this is a reality, who knows but it still has potential & I think that Christians who are opposed to this need to remember that they have a ton of channels that put Christian programming on. Just turn on the TV on a Sunday morning......
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Post by KittyLane on Jul 20, 2007 12:50:26 GMT -5
There has been talk of cable companies charging by the channel (you can pick & choose your programming)....Whether this is a reality, who knows but it still has potential & I think that Christians who are opposed to this need to remember that they have a ton of channels that put Christian programming on. Just turn on the TV on a Sunday morning...... If that was possible that would be something I would really be interested in! I would spend the extra money for that.
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Post by Der Trommler on Jul 22, 2007 9:02:16 GMT -5
As would I....Although, aside from money spent for upkeep of the channel, I think extra money (if there is any) should go to some sort of Pagan fund. This fund would help people in need. I'm not sure it should be a Pagan only fund (it would be hard to prove being Pagan anyway).
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Post by KittyLane on Jul 23, 2007 9:39:22 GMT -5
yes that would be good just have to watch out for people trying to exploit the cause.
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