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Post by bran_sinnach on Aug 19, 2006 23:48:01 GMT -5
I am curious, how many people here feel these things are important to either themselves or their faith? I know that, to many, going on fasts or the denial of something for any period of time is highly important, as is seeking visions through one medium or another. So I was just curious about who here participates in these or acts of a similar nature, and if they would be willing to share them with us.
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Post by Senbecc on Nov 10, 2006 15:33:20 GMT -5
I am curious, how many people here feel these things are important to either themselves or their faith? I know that, to many, going on fasts or the denial of something for any period of time is highly important, as is seeking visions through one medium or another. So I was just curious about who here participates in these or acts of a similar nature, and if they would be willing to share them with us. Sorry buddy, I juuust saw this...I will reply more fully when I get more time.
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Post by wren on Nov 11, 2006 12:17:07 GMT -5
Me!!! *waving hand in air*
Be happy to share what I have experienced with you. Some is too personal to share but the journey is an important one. One of the most important things is to have someone you can share such experiences with. To speak of them out loud and feel them deeply, even after they've occurred.
I highly recommend 'Soulcraft' by Bill Plotkin. It is a step by step guide to vision quests for our western culture. He does not 'steal' other cultures' practices but fashions ones based on our own culture.
I also think it would be a better choice for the book club forum, as we could all take the journey together and support one another!
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Post by Senbecc on Nov 11, 2006 12:37:09 GMT -5
Me *waving hand in air* Be happy to share what I have experienced with you. Some is too personal to share but the journey is an important one. One of the most important things is to have someone you can share such experiences with. To speak of them out loud and feel them deeply, even after they've occurred. I highly recommend 'Soulcraft' by Bill Plotkin. It is a step by step guide to vision quests for our western culture. He does not 'steal' other cultures' practices but fashions ones based on our own culture. I also think it would be a better choice for the book club forum, as we could all take the journey together and support one another! I see more clearly what it is you need now Wren...I think we should work something out, and perhaps share some stories over the phone and a beer sometime. I'd enjoy it a great deal actually. When I fast, I usually do so by weening myself from solid foods. This is accomplished by lowering the calorie intake slowly and steadily. Right now I'm back to about 300 per day, and will steadily get lower as the weeks go by. As the solid food intake gets lower it is replaced by broths of pork and beef. Not Pizza, but it does the trick! These broths are taken twice a day through out the fast, never let anyone tell you that fasting means NO nourishment what-so-ever. Then sometime after the work is done...Don't worry about the hunger it dulls after a while.
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Post by wren on Nov 11, 2006 12:42:54 GMT -5
Thanks, Sen. I welcome the day!
I use raw juices/water for a few days and then go to only water for a three day fast. I find it alters my consciousness enough to let the 'ego' go. It is a heady and life-shattering experience to let your ego slip away and find your soul underneath. It can be frightening, as you face your inner demons, but it has never been something I've regretted.
I see my last seven years of my illness as a different sort of journey into the darkness. Interestingly, because i felt no hunger, I rarely ate. Didn't realize until just recently just how much work had taken place inside me. Thus... the butterfly totem!
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Post by Senbecc on Nov 11, 2006 14:54:57 GMT -5
Thanks, Sen. I welcome the day! I use raw juices/water for a few days and then go to only water for a three day fast. I find it alters my consciousness enough to let the 'ego' go. It is a heady and life-shattering experience to let your ego slip away and find your soul underneath. It can be frightening, as you face your inner demons, but it has never been something I've regretted. I see my last seven years of my illness as a different sort of journey into the darkness. Interestingly, because i felt no hunger, I rarely ate. Didn't realize until just recently just how much work had taken place inside me. Thus... the butterfly totem! I work two more days wren then we can discuss your journeys. I look forward to it.
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Post by wren on Nov 11, 2006 16:35:19 GMT -5
Cool!
What do you think about 'Soulcraft' for the book club revival?
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