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Post by KittyLane on Apr 18, 2006 9:57:41 GMT -5
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrology A practitioner of astrology is called an astrologer or, less often, an astrologist. Although the two fields share a common origin, modern astronomy as practiced is not to be confused with astrology. While astronomy is the study and observation of celestial objects and their movements through space, astrology is the study of the supposed correlation of those objects with earthly affairs. There is no widely accepted evidence that astrology as a system has a falsifiable, scientific basis though individual astrological predictions may be subject to disproof. Where it has been tested, astrology has shown a consistent lack of predictive power. Horoscopic astrology Horoscopic astrology is a very specific and complex system of astrology that was developed in the Mediterranean region and specifically Hellenistic Egypt sometime around the late 2nd or early 1st century BCE [3] that deals largely with astrological charts cast for specific moments in time in order to interpret the inherent meaning underlying the alignment of the planets at that moment based on specific sets of rules and guidelines. One of the defining characteristics of this form of astrology that makes it distinct from other traditions is the computation of the degree of the Eastern horizon rising against the backdrop of the ecliptic at the specific moment under examination, otherwise known as the ascendant. This has been the most influential and widespread form of astrology across the world, especially in India, Europe and the Middle East, and there are several major traditions of horoscopic astrology including Indian, Hellenistic, Medieval, and most other modern western traditions of astrology. the following is a link to see the zodiac symbols: upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d1/Zodiac_woodcut.png/360px-Zodiac_woodcut.png
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Post by KittyLane on Apr 18, 2006 10:04:23 GMT -5
i do follow my horoscope, and do believe in the stars. sometimes my horoscope makes no sense. and other times i am like wow. how accurate.
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Post by moonwind333 on Apr 18, 2006 11:20:07 GMT -5
i do follow my horoscope, and do believe in the stars. sometimes my horoscope makes no sense. and other times i am like wow. how accurate. Have you ever had your full chart done by an astrologist? If they are a good one your jaw will drop! |
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Post by flowerfaeryqueen on Apr 18, 2006 14:19:59 GMT -5
this is a debate i often have with my mother. she thinks it is all bullsh!t, that you control your own future, not some stupid magazine columnist.
I think that magazine horoscopes are a bit silly, and innacurate. where they tell you what to do all the time, and put you into 12 groups, and that is what happens. but i do think that personal fortune tellers are great, and the stars can tell you what is on store for you. i havent been to an astrologist, but i would like to.
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Post by KittyLane on Apr 18, 2006 14:43:15 GMT -5
i do follow my horoscope, and do believe in the stars. sometimes my horoscope makes no sense. and other times i am like wow. how accurate. Have you ever had your full chart done by an astrologist? If they are a good one your jaw will drop! no not yet, an online freebe but not a full one. |
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Post by moonwind333 on Apr 18, 2006 14:43:17 GMT -5
this is a debate i often have with my mother. she thinks it is all bullsh!t, that you control your own future, not some stupid magazine columnist. I think that magazine horoscopes are a bit silly, and innacurate. where they tell you what to do all the time, and put you into 12 groups, and that is what happens. but i do think that personal fortune tellers are great, and the stars can tell you what is on store for you. i havent been to an astrologist, but i would like to. The commercial horoscopes are so general they are really unusable. I pretty much ignore them the same way I ignore fortune cookies (except to get a bit of a giggle). But an in depth astrological chart or numerological chart by someone who knows what they are doing can be absolutely amazing! Just be careful about going to one and make sure they aren't just trying to get your money. |
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Post by KittyLane on Apr 18, 2006 14:46:08 GMT -5
this is a debate i often have with my mother. she thinks it is all bullsh!t, that you control your own future, not some stupid magazine columnist. I think that magazine horoscopes are a bit silly, and innacurate. where they tell you what to do all the time, and put you into 12 groups, and that is what happens. but i do think that personal fortune tellers are great, and the stars can tell you what is on store for you. i havent been to an astrologist, but i would like to. well when i had my palm read i thought it was awesome. (id been waiting forever to do it!) then i got my cards read, and i was amazed. i was doing everything i could not to give him any details.....so i could get an acurate reading. and wow. he knew my mother had passed and how that affected me, (death card) and about my feelings on "the father" issue. and he told me i would be good at reading tarot, so that night i began! |
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Post by Sojrn on Apr 18, 2006 16:47:42 GMT -5
Have you ever had your full chart done by an astrologist? If they are a good one your jaw will drop! Yes I have,  and he really hit home with the details! |
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Post by KittyLane on Apr 19, 2006 16:48:17 GMT -5
where and how did you have yours done, moon, sojrn?
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Post by moonwind333 on Apr 19, 2006 17:01:47 GMT -5
where and how did you have yours done, moon, sojrn? One of my teachers was an expert astrologist, so she did mine many years ago. What totally convenced me about the validity of astrology was I guessed at the time of my birth based on asking my mother what time I was born. She said around 6:00pm. (You would think your own mother would remember what time you were born, huh?) Well, when I wound up in the hospital with appendicitice that wasn't predicted in my chart, she told me I was wrong about my time of birth. Working backwards from the hospital stay SHE TOLD ME I WAS BORN BETWEEN 6:55 AND 7:00 PM! I got a copy of my birth certificate (finally, I needed it to get my passport) I found out I was born at 6:59 pm. Now THAT was |
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Post by Pel on Apr 19, 2006 22:51:46 GMT -5
I'm probably more skeptic than most around here, but astrology does intrigue me. Most of the time, I see the years as linear and there is no way that events can be predicted. Then other times I see a year as a cycle, the events repeating and progressing in turn. I applied that thought to the big "nature versus nurture" debate and came up with an idea to help settle my skepticism. If a person truly didn't believe in astrology or similar arts, maybe it could be thought of in a different way. You could ignore the predictions for a moment and focus on how astrology could reveal someone's personality/past/etc. If events happen in a certain order, in a precise pattern every year, and these events occur at specific stages of a child's development, they could be read as a map to who that child will most likely become. When the astrological charts were first being derived, psychological thought wasn't exactly bursting at the seems, but people could see that when a child was born at a certain time of the year that it would most likely grow up to act in a certain way.
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Post by KittyLane on Apr 21, 2006 8:52:17 GMT -5
i have always seen the year as a wheel. even before my studies into paganism. but looking back i have always leaned this way! as far as children's charts i have no idea. i have never had mine or my son's done. i might look into it though!
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Post by delta on May 11, 2006 10:57:47 GMT -5
I believe it's all about possibility and probability. Certain things and events are fixed on your path, there is no way to avoid them, but how you react to these events is whats matters. By being able to identify the nature of the individual - through date of birth, name and other means, fixed events can be accertain and predicted, but it is also important that the "nature" of this individual is going to influence how this person reacts to these fixed events and then comes in the changing from a possibility to a probability. To be able to predict the reaction of an individual to a certain situation and then follow the circle of events takes real knowledge of the human nature.
Sorry, English is not my first language and I sometimes have trouble in expressing my thought clearly. Hope you understand what I'm trying to say.
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Post by delta on May 11, 2006 11:01:05 GMT -5
I believe it's all about possibility and probability. Certain things and events are fixed on your path, there is no way to avoid them, but how you react to these events is whats matters. By being able to identify the nature of the individual - through date of birth, name and other means, fixed events can be accertain and predicted, but it is also important that the "nature" of this individual is going to influence how this person reacts to these fixed events and then comes in the changing from a possibility to a probability. To be able to predict the reaction of an individual to a certain situation and then follow the circle of events takes real knowledge of the human nature.
Sorry, English is not my first language and I sometimes have trouble in expressing my thought clearly. Hope you understand what I'm trying to say.
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Post by Senbecc on May 11, 2006 15:50:02 GMT -5
You seem to write very well Delta, though if your worried about your spelling we have a spell checker and sometimes it actually works! Not often but sometimes.  100,000 welcomes to PaganMystics |
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