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Post by Der Trommler on Jan 17, 2007 22:19:37 GMT -5
I seem to keep coming to this board area & either post in one of the sub-boards. The problem I face is that I feel I'm in the middle of the teaching rather than the beginning......
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Post by wren on Jan 17, 2007 22:34:59 GMT -5
Are you asking specifically about learning the ogham from the threads? If so, I would suggest you start with the Ogham Lore thread, and then go through each Ogham as it is numbered 1-20. Last would be the Four Treasures. The other threads here support the material in those 22 threads.
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Post by Der Trommler on Jan 17, 2007 22:53:19 GMT -5
I need to learn in order to lay my path before me. Things are coming at me & taking shape but I do think I need to help my decision as well. I will start reading there!
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Post by wren on Jan 17, 2007 23:19:44 GMT -5
The ogham is a fascinating subject. Even if you do not use it for divination, the associations with the trees, the lore and the magic are something that links them to the entire world of the Celts.
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Post by Der Trommler on Jan 17, 2007 23:23:19 GMT -5
Let me ask you this. The Celts used druids & shamans or only druids for the religious? (I know it's a loaded question but I seem not to be able to get enough time to google it!! lol)
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Post by wren on Jan 23, 2007 12:25:19 GMT -5
I see the druid as the shaman of the Celts. Others would say a druid was a priest. But, I don't believe their spirituality can be likened to that of the World Religions. The soul was considered outside the body, all was ensouled (animism) and there were gods and goddesses in everything from places to trees to rivers. The ancient Celts, to my knowledge, had none named 'shaman' that I've seen in the lore.
There were also the Brehon in Ireland, who were the lawgivers. Your question is not a simple one to answer, I'm afraid. Does any of this help?
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Post by Der Trommler on Jan 31, 2007 10:30:05 GMT -5
Well, what I'm getting at, is the Celts had a sort of consort to the unknown. IE: Shaman, Priest, Mage/wizard, witch, medicine man....Most races have a defined character like this. As Celts are not classical (in the historical sense), they certainly did influence Europe!
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Post by wren on Jan 31, 2007 10:46:19 GMT -5
Yes, I think the druid would have been all those things to the people served. Jason Kirkey wrote of the nine strands of druidry: tribal dimension, art, teaching, metaphysical, divination, seership, ritual, natural philosophy, and service. Those would encompass not only the roles of the ancient druids but we can also apply them to ourselves today.
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Post by Der Trommler on Feb 1, 2007 8:59:32 GMT -5
Makes sense. I need to start somewhere to find what path I am going. So far, I've many things that have been posted here & understood most of them (Ogham Lore kind of baffled me...need to work on that one later). So, I've going thread to thread & trying to keep the reading going. Eventually, I would like to get some books to read but the financial situation I'm in restricts my spending any money for a while.....
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Post by wren on Feb 1, 2007 13:15:23 GMT -5
I found great bargains by buying used books through Amazon. The Ogham can take time and then suddenly it will make sense... as John and I always say, they are onions with many layers. Not a day passes that I do not discover something new about one of the fews in my studies and meditations. The same is true with the lore of the Celts. Layers upon layers of meaning.
May you walk in beauty, as you discover your path!
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Post by wren on Feb 1, 2007 13:19:36 GMT -5
I would also suggest, if it interests you, the free online course at the New Order of Druids ( www.druidcircle.org/avalon). The College of Dana has three course levels and I found the work both enlightening and challenging. Jason Kirkey, whose work I mentioned above, wrote the course and it is definitely worth checking out even if you are only wondering if the druid path is the one for you. |
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Post by Senbecc on Feb 1, 2007 14:20:36 GMT -5
My gonna do with you wren? I agree with all she has said here...Find yourself a good grove and look into their teachings, as well as books on the Ogham...Take in every source you can on the subject.
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Post by Der Trommler on Feb 12, 2007 9:22:18 GMT -5
I would also suggest, if it interests you, the free online course at the New Order of Druids ( www.druidcircle.org/avalon). The College of Dana has three course levels and I found the work both enlightening and challenging. Jason Kirkey, whose work I mentioned above, wrote the course and it is definitely worth checking out even if you are only wondering if the druid path is the one for you. I signed up here...  |
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Post by wren on Feb 12, 2007 16:56:54 GMT -5
I'm so glad! I've posted several of my course essays here and more of them at the Void! We'll all take this journey together!
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Post by Der Trommler on Feb 12, 2007 21:03:40 GMT -5
YUP!!! I'm excited about it!!!
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