What Is Chaos Magick?

[Wolf]

Can anyone explain to me what chaos magick is???

[Senbecc]

wolf said:

Can anyone explain to me what chaos magick is???

Well, Wolf I'll tell ya...I'm probably about as in the dark on this one as you are...So I think it will be kind of fun to explore it's tenants with you. What I'm finding thus far is that it's actually a relitivly new practice, of "empty handed magic" which I think just means they don't use ritual tools like Athames, wands, or the like. Evidently what they do use is what they call "paradigm" shifting. Paradigm since the late 60's means a thought pattern scientific disipline. Also Chaos Magic can embody inhibitory or excitatory states of consciousness, called gnosis, which is a greek word for Knowledge, or Direct knowledge of God through awareness of the divine spark within. Have a look at these sites and tell me what you think?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_magic

Chaos, according to the “Oxford English Dictionary”, means:
1. A gaping void, yawning gulf, chasm, or abyss.
2. The “formless void” of primordial matter, the “great deep” or “abyss” out of which the cosmos or order of the universe was evolved.

There are a couple of additional definitions, but they are irrelevant to this discussion. When chaos is used in magic, there is no place for confusion or disorder.

Chaos is the creative principle behind all magic. When a magical ritual is performed, regardless of “tradition” or other variables in the elements of the performance, a magical energy is created and put into motion to cause something to happen. In his book, Sorcery as Virtual Mechanics, Stephen Mace cites a scientific precedent for this creative principle:

I quote: ‘To keep it simple, let us confine our example to just two electrons, the point like carriers of negative charge. Let us say they are a part of the solar wind - beta particles, as it were - streaming out from the sun at thousands of miles a second. Say that these two came close enough that their negative charges interact, causing them to repel one another. How do they accomplish this change in momentum?

‘According to quantum electrodynamics, they do it by exchanging a “virtual” photon. One electron spawns it, the other absorbs it, and so do they repel each other. The photon is “virtual” because it cannot be seen by an outside observer, being wholly contained in the interaction. But it is real enough, and the emission and absorption of virtual photons is how the electromagnetic interaction operates.

‘The question which is relevant to our purpose here is where does the photon come from. It does not come out of one electron and lodge in the other, as if it were a bullet fired from one rock into another. The electrons themselves are unchanged, except for their momenta. Rather, the photon is created out of nothing by the strain of the interaction. According to current theory, when the two electrons come close, their waveforms interact, either cancelling out or reinforcing one another. Waveforms are intimately tied to characteristics like electric charge, and we could thus expect the charges on the two electrons to change. But electron charge does not vary; it is always 1.602 x 10(- 19) coulombs. Instead, the virtual photons appear out of the vacuum and act to readjust the system. The stress spawns them and by their creation is the stress resolved.’

Austin Spare understood this principle in regard to magical phenomena long before scientists discovered photons or began experiments in the area of chaos science.

www.sacred-texts.com/eso/chaos/chaosdef.htm

[Wolf]

Ooooooook... I think i'm gonna need a dictionary.. lol

[raeven]

I utilize chaos magick.. it is considered one of the schools of magick separate from witchcraft and the others.


Chaos Magic is a relatively new form of ritual and empty-handed magic, utilizing paradigm shifting and inhibitory or excitatory states of consciousness, called "gnosis," including, but not limited to, meditation, chanting, spinning, dancing, drug use, pain or orgasm. Practitioners hold that they can shape reality using this form of magic.

Here is a very good link

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_magic

[Wolf]

Thanks Raeven!

[raeven]

your welcome

[Senbecc]

wolf said:

Thanks Raeven!

Think this is something you'll want explore deeper?

[Wolf]

Maybe..

[shaamansu]

Even outside of the Magic arena.....have you just ever one somewhere.....look at the crowd of people and think.....this is utter chaos. Same principle.

[bran_sinnach]

Lol, well it took a bit of searching, but I finally found the right strips on a pagan based web-comic that I really enjoy. On chaos magic, I think youll find these particular stips entertaining and informative.
ohmygods.timerift.net/strips/2005/02/12.php
ohmygods.timerift.net/strips/2005/02/13.php
ohmygods.timerift.net/strips/2005/02/14.php

[shaamansu]

Chaos magick is not meant to be clearcut....It's purpose is to confuse...and get things off balance.

[stormcat]

Errr, I saw them using some unusal names, dieties they invoke.(at another forum) They were some pretty strong sounding characters! I think I need a book to study this! >^..^<

[gypsylady]

shaamansu said:

Chaos magick is not meant to be clearcut....It's purpose is to confuse...and get things off balance.

So, if it's purpose is to confuse or make things off balance, What could you use it for? *sorry I'm confused, I've never heard of chaos magic*

[wren]

PRINCIPIA CHAOTICA
By Peter Carroll

Chaos Magic for the Pandaemeon

In Chaos Magic, beliefs are not seen as ends in themselves, but as
tools for creating desired effects. To fully realize this is to face
a terrible freedom in which Nothing is True and Everything is
Permitted, which is to say that everything is possible, there are no
certainties, and the consequences can be ghastly. Laughter seems to
be the only defence against the realisation that one does not even
have a real self.

The purpose of Chaos Rituals is to create beliefs by acting as
though such beliefs were true. In Chaos Rituals you Fake it till you
Make it, to obtain the power that a belief can provide. Afterwards,
if you have any sense, you will laugh it off, and seek the requisite
beliefs for whatever you want to do next, as Chaos moves you.

Thus Chaoism proclaims the Death and Rebirth of the Gods. Our
subconscious creativity and parapsychological powers are more than
adequate to create or destroy any god or self or demon or other
"spritual" entity that we may choose to invest or disinvest belief
in, at least for ourselves and sometimes others as well. The
frequently awesome results attaining by creating gods by act of
ritually behaving as though they exist should not lead the Chaos
magician into the abyss of attributing ultimate reality to anything.
That is the transcendentalist mistake,, which leads to the narrowing
of the spectrum of the self. The real awesomeness lies in the range
of things we can discover ourselves capable of, even if we may
temporarily have to believe the effects are due to something else,
in order to be able to create them. The gods are dead. Long live the
gods.

Magic appeals to those with a great deal of hubris and a fertile
imagination coupled with a strong suspicion that both reality and
human condition have a game like quality. The game is open ended,
and plays itself for amusement. Players can make up their own rules
to some extent, and cheat by using parapsychology if desired.

A magician is one who has sold his soul for the chance of
participating more fully in reality. Only when nothing is true, and
the idea of a true self is abandoned, does everything become
permitted. There is some accuracy in the Faust myth, but he failed
to take it to its logical conclusion.

It takes only the acceptance of a single belief to make someone a
magician. It is the meta-belief that belief is a tool for achieving
effects. This effect is often far easier to observe in others than
in oneself. It is usually quite easy to see how other people, and
indeed entire cultures, are both enabled and disabled by the beliefs
they hold. Beliefs tend to lead to activities which tend to
reconfirm belief in a circle they call virtuous rather than vicious,
even if the results are not amusing. The first stage of seeing
through the game can be a shocking enlightenment that leads either
to a weary cynicism or Buddhism. The second stage of actually
applying the insight to oneself can destroy the illusion of the soul
and create a magician. The realisation that belief is a tool rather
than an end in itself has immense consequences if fully accepted.
Within the limits set by physical possibility, and these limits are
wider and more malleable than most people believe, one can make real
any beliefs one chooses, including contradictionary beliefs. The
Magician is not striving for any particular limited identity goal,
rather he wants the meta-identity of being able to be anything.

So welcome to the Kali Yuga of the Pandaemonaeon wherein nothing is
true and everything is permissable. For in these post-absolutist
days it is better to build upon the shifting sands than the rock
which will confound you on the day it shatters. Philosophers have
become no more than the keepers of useful sarcasms, for the secret
is out that there is no secret of the universe. All is Chaos and
evolution is going nowhere in particular. It is pure chance which
rules the universe and thus, and only thus, is life good. We are
born accidentally into a random world where only seeming causes lead
to apparent effects, and very little is predetermined, thank Chaos.
As everything is arbitrary and accidental then perhaps these words
are too small and pejorative, rather we should perhaps say that life,
the universe and everything is spontaneously creative and magical.

Relishing stochastic reality we can revel exclusively in magical
definitions of existence. The roads of excess may yet lead to the
place of wisdom, and many indeterminate things can happen on the way
to thermodynamic equilibrium. It is vain to seek solid ground on
which to stand. Solidity is an illusion, as is the foot which stands
on it, and the self which thinks it owns either is the most
transparent illusion of all.

The heavy vessels of faith are holed and sinking along with all
lifeboats and ingenious rafts. So will you shop at the supermarket
of sensation and let your consumer preferences define your true
self? Or will you in a bold and lighthearted fashion, thieve from
both for the fun of it? For belief is a tool for achieving whatever
one chooses to consider important or pleasurable, and sensation has
no other purpose than sensation. Thus help yourself to them without
paying the price. Sacrifice Truth for Freedom at every opportunity.
The greatest fun, freedom and achievement lies not being yourself.
There is little merit in simply being whomsoever you were destined
to be by accident of birth and circumstance. Hell is the condition
of having no alternatives.

Reject then the obscenities of contrived uniformity, order and
purpose. Turn and face the tidal wave of Chaos from which
philosophers have been fleeing in terror for millennia. Leap in and
come out surfing its crest, sporting amidst the limitless weirdness
and mystery in all things, for those who reject false certainties.
Thank Chaos we shall never exhaust it. Create, destroy, enjoy,
IO CHAOS!

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* Origin: ChaosBox: Nothing is true -> all is permitted... (2:243/2)

[gypsylady]

So, then Choas magic is sort of like fake it until you gain the power of the belief you're looking for? Is this tied in to the Principia Discordia?